Transcript: Hodge Interview with O’Reilly

Kansas City Star; June 15, 2007

Transcript: Hodge Interview with O’Reilly

O’REILLY: Now for the top story tonight, reaction to the Sebelius veto. Joining us now from Kansas City is Kansas Representative Ben Hodge. You know, I can’t believe in a state like Kansas, not San Francisco, OK it’s not Madison, Wisconsin, it’s not Boulder, Colorado, that politicians there in both parties continue to allow this doctor in Wichita to kill these late-term fetuses.


O’REILLY: .with absolutely no specific medical reason. I cannot believe the state legislature of Kansas continues to allow it to happen.

HODGE: Many people don’t know that late-term abortions are legal. I think many educated people just aren’t aware of that. And many people aren’t aware that we are a central location, Kansas. Most of the late-term abortions on viable babies in the state of Kansas are from women — occur on women who are from other states.

O’REILLY: And other countries. And other countries, because this barbaric procedure is outlawed in most countries of the world.

Now the law in Kansas does say, however, there’s got to be a viable medical reason for these terminations, murders, whatever word you want to use, to happen. Does it not?

HODGE: It does. And it actually – it should be followed already. The way George Tiller and other abortionists have interpreted it is that they just have to report the fact that there was a medical condition.

They have gone around that for years now. And they haven’t reported what the medical condition is.

And so what the Kansas legislature did this year was to reiterate and to clarify into Kansas law that when a late-term abortion occurs, that the — and if there’s a medical condition, they — that the abortionists have to report what that medical condition is.

What we’re concerned is happening, and what two judges have found is the case that there’s probably cause that George Tiller is performing illegal late-term abortions. Likely women are saying that they have temporary mental health reasons. And that under Kansas law is not a valid reason.

O’REILLY: OK. Now you did pass that law. The Kansas legislature passed the law that Tiller — and he’s the only one doing it in Kansas. All right, he’s the only barbarian who they can find to do this. Advertises on his website. All of that.

You passed the law that said Tiller had to give the state a medical reason, viable reason why he’s killing the fetuses. And then the governor steps up and vetoes the law. But I didn’t see any outcry in the press, Mr. Hodge.


O’REILLY: I didn’t see any outcry by the people of Kansas for this governor basically saying, hey Tiller you kill as many fetuses as you want for whatever reason you want. That’s what the governor is saying.

HODGE: Well, the governor has a lot of money riding on this. You know, she’d like to be their White House VP candidate or a cabinet member. She’s going to run for Senate in 2010 if nothing else works out for her in ’08.

And she was dishonest on this. She said that there were privacy concerns.

Now already under Kansas law, already for years, Tiller has already been reporting not the names, not information that could be used to identify the women. But that he has already been reporting that there is a medical condition. So all we’re saying is that.

O’REILLY: What is it?

HODGE: .on top of that, tell us what it is.

O’REILLY: Yes, what is it?

HODGE: So that’s a completely bogus claim.

O’REILLY: Now I don’t know whether you know this or not, Mr. Hodge, but here’s a list of the money that Tiller gave Sebelius in donations. Here it is. Did you know that? .

HODGE: Wouldn’t surprise me.

O’REILLY: You didn’t know it though, did you?

HODGE: No. Well, no, I didn’t know that.

O’REILLY: All right.

HODGE: I did know that he is – he and others have spent millions of dollars.

O’REILLY: (INAUDIBLE) since 1994 has given her money. I just — you know, Mr. Hodge, Kansas is a great state, but this is a disgrace upon everyone who lives in Kansas. Is it not?

HODGE: Well, at times, I think it is. I think at times in American history, I think there will be times when branches of government fail the people. And this is one of those times. And it requires other branches of government to step up to the plate. And that’s what we’re asking the Speaker of the House to do.

O’REILLY: All right.

HODGE: And we are asking the Democratic attorney general.

O’REILLY: We’re asking all of our viewers all over the world to get in touch with the governor of Kansas and tell her what you think. Mr. Hodge, thanks for being on the right side of this and continue to try to get something done about this barbarian Tiller.

HODGE: Thank you, Bill.

O’REILLY: Next on the “rundown,” three more children killed by their mother in Texas. We’ll have details on that. And later, Dennis Miller with some not nice things to say about John Edwards. Coming up. LOAD-DATE: June 16, 2007